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And don't try to tell me it isn't-- do a search on 'yaoi', and I guarantee you you'll find violent/explicit/paedophilic porn material somewhere on the first page.

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Let me start by giving you the FAQs wherein it's stated what is and is not acceptable material on dA: help.deviantart.com/565/ help.deviantart.com/60/

These are clearly geared to visual arts folk, but I am reasonably sure they'd apply to the lit galleries as well. This said, I'd like to share with you a few concerns I have about the content of some of the deviations I've been finding lately.

Look, everyone who knows me is aware that I am certainly no prude, nor a wowser when it comes to erotica. But jeez, people.. some of this stuff is worse than the worst b-grade nasty crap you'd find on any erotica fiction forum (yes, I belong to a couple, and I'm not telling which, so nyah).

But this isn't an erotic fiction forum, is it? It's deviantART, with a population of under-21's larger than that of the entire State I live in.

It's not just my concerns about kiddies getting their little heads filled by porn masked as "Okay sex stuff coz it's about cartoon/game/movie characters", either. I've seen some pretty disturbing things happening in the comments on these deviations. Here's a synopsis:

Under-Age Idjit Yaoi Fan: "Onoes, Harry Potter Porn Writer, the Mature filter has stopped me reading your sex stories!"

Harry Potter Porn Writer: "Oh, don't worry about that. Now I can't expose you to my hardcore yaoi rape scenarios, I'm taking my porn somewhere else."

Under-Age Idjit Yaoi Fan: "Meep! But how will I read you, now?!"

HPPW: "Give me your e-mail (times this by 10 or so other idjits) and then join me at a porn-friendlier site"

UAIYF: "Okay."

Yeah, scary, huh? I saw two of these in a matter of half an hour of doing a search on yaoi. And here's some notes I made on various individual deviations, whilst browsing the yaoi.. er.. fan-fic and mature categories. Keep in mind, I used to write erotica for a living. Some of this stuff shocked even me:

-- incest paedophile-rape porn. This guy's gallery was an anthem to paedophilic rape.

-- incest porn

-- explicit forced oral sex on a minor

-- rape porn

-- Voldemort as paedopile rapist, thinly disguised as a 'dream sequence'.

-- haha. how many times can a person say 'c*ck' in one sentence? Oh yeah and 'let's meet up, away from here' is a scary thing for someone writing paedophile porn to say to a dA member.

-- extremely explicit violent porn

-- very explicit porn novel chapter

-- explicit porn, with this appended in capital letters (and I quote): "I had to take the Mature filter off because my people can't read my work" (Your porn-ppl are CHILDREN is why, you f'n  freak).

-- complete with many throbbing things.

- explicit porn

-- pretty explicit porn

-- masturbatory porn

-- porn (in which Harry gets pregnant O_o )

-- more yawn.. er.. porn

- Explicit sex and c*m shot -- say, isn't that porn?


Now, I'm not suggesting a witch-hunt on all devs that should be, but are not, marked "Mature" and nor am I saying that fiction depicting sex scenes is a bad thing.

I'm saying that anyone with half a brain can tell that some devs are NOT literature as much as they are porn-scenes, with the entire purpose and focus being to depict various forms of sex, end of writing. Some are even clever enough to put some kind of scrawny-ass plot around thier offerings, in an attempt to make it look less so-- but still, they always END with the sex scene as the climax of the piece (PUN!) or soon thereafter, and it's clear that depicting an explicit sex scene is the entire and ONLY reason it's been posted.

So, how's about we go on a little rampage, O people who DO give a damn, and start reporting Lit that's clearly less about any kind of real literature than it is about getting a bunch of underaged persons sexually excited.

My apologies, btw, to those writers of yaoi who DO follow guidelines. I read some of your stuff, too, and no matter what my own opinion of it is, persoanlly, I do recognise that at least you are doing the right thing and keeping it porn-free.

EROTICA IS NOT PORN, I understand that, and I hope other people reading this do, too. However, explicit porn passed off as "erotica" has no place here, as the rules of submission make clear. I WILL MAKE IT MY BUSINESS TO REPORT YOU if you're too stupid to understand the FAQ. :)

!!!! BUT SAL ---  why o why don't you just use the X-button and go on your merry way, leaving these poor little porn-writers at peace?

Because I give a crap about the safety and the mental and emotional wellbeing of children, is why.

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Rainyskye Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2008
I hope all these disgusting people are reported for their shameful work, your article will definately reach out to people who can keep their eye on deviations such as these. Keep up the good work Sal.
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SuperGrouper Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2008
Yaoi fangirls are the festering lesion on the hinderparts of anime fandom. Someone needs to stop them from destroying this site. DeviantART is an ART site, not a shrine to unnatural sex.
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TheObviousChild Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2007
*applauds*
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AdrianAcheros Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
/commend

At first, I thought this was going to be a... how to say this..."ban those under 18 from viewing mature art" but that was a horrible assumption to make, I offer my apologies.

You are indeed right, there are people here who don't follow guidelines, and I think that's a serious reason as to why DA put that ban on those who are under 18 to view so called "mature art".

I am a fan of artistic nude, the body is a beautiful thing. Yes I am indeed a man, think what you will, but there are some pictures out there that truly depict the beauty of the human body.

Either way, the points you bring up are solid, I completely agree with you.

Adrian
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sammehsweet Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2007
Thank you so very, very much for taking some form of action against this. I can remember a time I was like 'dA has an erotica lit section?' taking a peek and being slightly wierded out. I agree with you one hundred percent that people obviously do not understand the distinction between erotica and p0rn and take it to mean some all out violent blood orgy, yeauch.The ones that I scanned, were either very young teenagers with 'omg lyk this is my first time writin stuf lyk this' to just very horrible situations with minors, violence, rape and other unwholesome stuff of which I do not want to see, and can only wonder why other people want to see.

The other thing I noticed, which worried me slightly, was that comments on these pieces are not a gauge of the volume of people who -read- the literature. I remember noticing a trend where erotica (violent, horrible explicit 'erotica';) had no comments, but well over a thousand views. That is alot of people who read these things, and you have no idea who they are.

I once had a friend ask me what the difference between erotica and porn was, which I told her (to speak simply) that 'Erotica was everything up to the sex' with characters, emotions, interactions in a variety of different situations - they can be naughty, but I always thought erotica should be more suggestive than graphic (something very rarely seen in the pr0n-fests in alot, but not all, dA erotica pieces). After all, sex is just sweatiness and thrusting and strange noises we wouldn't want to make in public places no matter what position it is in.

I applaud you for having the stomach to go out and read these things. I've never seen such courage and fortitude since the people at Godawful Fanfiction.

In closing, if I come across pieces like this again, what is the most effective way to lodge a complaint or 'black mark' them if they go against the dA submission guidelines?
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salshep Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2007
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

And yeah, I think that if the site's going to have an 'erotica' section, it might want to do some more regular and thorough checking of its contents.

I am yet to see any definitive admin action concerning public warnings against posting porn, specifically, in the literature gallery. And while the erotica category exists, and without the mass awareness something like that would bring, people are going to continue to see it as their 'right' to post whatever nasty crap they want in there, and feel justified in moaning about the 'unfairness' of it being moved or deleted. :|

At the bottom of each dev is a little link thing that says 'report policy violation'. Click that, choose ';pornography' and file a report. Somebody will get to it sooner or later.

I'm actually, at this point, kinda pissed to see not ONE GD or admin response, comment or news fave on this issue.

Maybe you have to be a bit more popular among the inner circle to get your stuff supported, I don't know. But it leaves me with the impression that deviantART cares a good deal less for the welfare of its customers than keeping up popularity with pageview numbers and happy emotes.

Meh, I don't mind being the squawking voice in the wilderness so much, I'm kind of used to it here. But this issue is serious enough that if they can't stomach showing ME support, they might find it in them to make their own damned news about the problem, in a specific way, and thereby get a show of official support that would go a long way to making people pay some f'n attention.

It should not be entirely in the hands of the paying consumer to be policing the policy of this website is my point, I guess.
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sammehsweet Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2007
I think it's mostly become and issue which is well grounded and well entrenched making it seem too formidable to eradicate. This may be the case, or rather that it might take a good long time and effort to bring it back into control - time and effort that the higher admins don't have. I'm pretty sure they've been policing visual art from the start. I mean over the last few years it just seems that yaoi has just undergone this explosion, I now see it everywhere in large volumes when I hadn't a couple of years ago.

I also kind of think that maybe the community has not really put in the restrictions for the literature side of erotica as well. I thought this when I first noticed that the FAQ's you showed are aimed quite clearly at visual artists - there aren't those clear cut lines for literature.

I do empathise with your anger on the lack of response from people higher up in the Great Chain of dA Being. But I do think, looking at the support you have from many deviants including alot of literature deviants, that maybe you can bring response and action within the community at least. Especially if the response from the GD's and admins can be aroused, maybe with some action within especially the literature community at least would cause them to break from inaction. I mean, there are two reasons why I agree with you - on a moralistic level and on the level that I do not enjoy seeing one branch of writing being degraded when it is in fact a genre of writing that can be done and done very well without the explicit and pornographic material that has currently overrun it.

Personally I think you'd have alot of support from dA members if you wanted to bring action through a community or a group, even if it shouldn't be entirely in the hands of the customers.
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salshep Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2007
Ah, I see $lolly has just put out a journal concerned with innapropriate content. That's a start, I suppose. Now to get the gallery cleaned up...

Anyone got a bulldozer and a packet of valium?
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salshep Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2007
inappropriate* even ><
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dreamscape-painter Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2007
I loveses you, sally, dear.
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salshep Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2007
Teh luff returneth to thee, manyfold.
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dreamscape-painter Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2007
:)

Thanks. That's good to hear, sometimes.
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NickoHeap Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2007   Writer
pedofiles are SOOO disgusting.

I write yaoi, but not porn, I would never write online porn.
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lefttowrite Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2007
I've always felt there's a place for pornographic artists and writers alike. They have their own places on and off the web, not sticking to those places make the individual questionable at best. There's no need for it on DA, if I'm looking for that style of material with or without artistic basis, I should go where it's meant for, places where you have to verify one's age.

Someone once tried to argue with me about younger and younger kids knowing and experiencing sexual situations and that being justification for such material being available to them... to which I've got only one question "And you're in support of jr. high kids having oral sex clubs?" Because I come from a small town, and I kid you not, it happened here. I'm a big supporter of kids should be kids, and should be forced to remain kids whether they like it or not. I'm glad it bothers someone else that 5th graders can slip on the internet and read about, and understand their favorite fiction lit characters participating in sexual events best reserved for the jail cells of pedophiles.
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projectvxn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
To date I have reported something like 35 - 45 people for that very thing throughout dA. Seriously. When I greet people to dA I leave links to every piece of information regarding policy of categorization, copyright infringement, resources, and most importantly submission policy. Because some people just won't get it until you shove it right in their face. And if that doesn't work. Report.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
dA needs more people like you!

Latest news is that one of our GD's has moved some of the devs, and apparently the admin have some plan or other that will help.

My thought on it is, that what is desperately needed is for admin to take a very tough stance for a while, so people stop uploading it in the first place.

The general attitude among those who read and post porn here is that it is their RIGHT to do so, and hence all the whining about the mature filter thing and the removal of explicit porn from galleries.

dA's admin needs to make it VERY clear to everyone that porn is not acceptable at all.

Until they do that, it's like pushing a river uphill.
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projectvxn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
Look I love porn. Probably more than is healthy by anyones standards. But this is certainly not the place for it. I'm always held dA in high esteem because of the etiquette in which people communicate with each other. As well as how people treat the community. But this place is much bigger now than it was a few years ago. When I first joined there were just 300,000 or so people...But never got around to doing anything with that account. But I digress. And so for about the first 2 years or so all I did was lurk around an get a feel for the community before viola! I created this account. And have seen this place explode. And with that comes a large explosion of assholes. So now we have a problem.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
I'm with you on all of the above: on the not minding porn (written, more than visual for me), on it not belonging here, and on there being a problem.

This isn't about "porn is bad, m'kay?", it's about the appropriateness of it on a supposed ART site with a major percentage of members being minors.

Anyhow, with a bit of luck they'll get it under control. Since it appears they do give a crap, I'll keep reporting when I find them. I'm hoping to nag until the presence of kid-porn in any gallery= insta-perma-ban. So far, I have seen ONE account suspended, and the rest have only had the dev removed. :(
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projectvxn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
When it come to the safety of kids, and the promotion of their exploitation should result in a ban and being reported to authorities if suspicious behavior with any minor is witnessed. With proper evidence of course.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
I could not agree more. :)
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projectvxn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
I personally think dA should establish a volunteer based initiative to stop things like this.
I realize there are measures in place to stop this sort of thing. How ever it's a matter of work load for not just GDs but for the E & P department as well.

I say this because if things continue in this pattern it won't be long before we see dA on the news because some asshole pedophile managed to finagle a meeting out of a kid. Then we'll have to institute some seriously restrictive policies. Such as making the site 18 and over, removing all nude gallries, and so forth and so on. It's a can of bullshit waiting to explode.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2007
I've already seen porn-writing people asking young kids for their e-mails and to join them at other, porn-friendlier sites. Were that my 13-year old, I'd be contacting administration and/or the police in a heartbeat.

This is precisely why I think a few hard measures now might help to prevent the chance of anything that horrid happening. And on a more ordinary level, keep the site about art, as it's meant to be.

The thought occurred to me also that a taskforce would be useful. A group with very clear guidelines handed down from admin, leaving no room for mere personal preference or agendas, to round up the offending devs. But still, a huge anti-porn article with a warning about bannage might do some good, too.
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ThorStrongStone Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2007
After 120 Days of Sodom, well, I just can't take any more of the child sexin'. Report away!
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lucidknight Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2007
Not really a rant, you're just stating the facts. You don't know how many things like that I've come across *not here and hopefully never* that have made me want to stab myself.
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mizudatsurugi Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2007
I agree with you. I think that although there are thousands of pornographic and erotic material being written, very few of them are actually good. Erotica is meant to be artistic or something like that, while porn is just plain sex. To be honest, lots of "erotic" literature on here is more like porn.

I think the ideal piece of literature that has sexual themes should be more about the development of the characters' personalities and how they change throughout the plot (just because the characters are doing some really...interesting stuff that gets people all hot and sweaty doesn't mean it's a high quality piece. Seriously, people don't just bump into each other at the subway then decide to go to a love hotel together (the only exception is if they're drunk)) and the feelings (you want the reader to feel the feelings that the character expresses through the action as well, not just the pleasure because of the action (there's a difference between having sex and making love)).

A good example is a story about a guy who visits a brothel. While porn would just make up some sloppy plot mainly about the reasons the guy is going to a brothel, erotica would probably focus more on the story about the prostitute (e.g. Why is she there? How did she get there? Does she want to be there? How does she feel about this?
Will she ever get out of this place? Because when you really think about it, prostitutes probably didn't want to be prostitutes in the first place.)

Oh man, I think I just put in an entire rant here.
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SparrowSong Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007  Hobbyist Writer
So, you post an article against yaoi and porn in fanfic, and the next day Dumbledore is outed. What a fantastic coincidence.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2007
:|

I cringe to think what that'll be spawning.

Meanwhile, somewhere up there, a minor god snickers.
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annaxkankuro Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007
i fear my mental and emotional well being threw its seltf out the window fell into the street and got run over many years ago -_-
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tenko72 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007
I'm confused. Where does erotica end and porn begin?
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007
Now, I don't presume to be able to define that for society.

But here's a definition of what is not acceptable for the deviantART lit gallery, from the FAQ:

Why was my erotic literature removed?

Written submissions which place undue emphasis upon genitalia or which graphically describe sexual acts in detail will be classified by the deviantART administration as inappropriate material and subjected to immediate removal without prior warning.

Deviants who are found to repeatedly submit this material despite previous administrative removals may be subjected to a ban of a temporary or permanent nature depending on the exact circumstances and number of prior violations.
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tenko72 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2007
Thanks for answering my question.
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007   Writer
I swear when I was 13 I never fantazised about boy on boy cartoon love. It worries me what people get up to these days.

I think this is yet another miscat in literature fuelled with fanfiction- I just don't understand why there are so many, it's not hard to read the criteria for each category after all.

Good article, definately more an article than a rant.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007
Thanks Becca.

Not so much a miscat issue, but one of policy. dA has clear parameters about what is and isn't acceptable here, and it's pissing me off that porn litters the lit gallery like smut-confetti, when it shouldn't be there at all, and that there's a bunch of slightly post-pubescent kiddies drooling over rape scenes and bestiality incest. Never mind the potential creepy adult factor, and that writers of HP fanfic, furry stuff and even (whatever the less-porn version of yaoi is) who do follow policy get a hard enough time already w/o getting associated with hardcore as well. *sigh*

Yeah, it worries me too.
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xxvenit-anathemaxx Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
I agree that porn should not be on devart.
I am, however, all for erotica.

But then again, I like a good smutty fanfiction, so what am I doing??!

Ach - this is one of those issues that houses so many opinions.
I can't even stay on one side of the line!

...Just as an after thought, some lit pieces that focus purely on the sex are actually very talented and beautiful works.
I know that most often they're just cheap porn, but some few writers capture the love and complexities of a relationship through writing sex scenes.

Anyhow, good luck to you on your pornography rampage.:)
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Renilicious Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Report the fiction as you come across it. Anything of an explicit nature, including "child pornography/erotica" will be removed. I definitely agree with you on this issue. The lit galleries tend to be ignored and as such, a lot more of this shit can be found there.
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JobobArikan Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
I did the search and alls I can say is
[link]
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
Are you trying to get your dev more pageviews? I can't really see the point of this reply, otherwise.

What exactly are you saying?
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JobobArikan Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
It makes me scream and breaks my heart to see that porn is all over DA--and FYI-there isnt any page views to this and I could not care less that DA types view my work--
delete the comment if it suits you--
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
Ahhh. I see now. Just me being thick, I suppose.

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JobobArikan Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
no Its just I communicate better with these than with words
thats why I do not have journal
I spend my time reporting porn in Art-nude cat
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
lol, I'm a wordy person.

And good on you for doing that. :)
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JobobArikan Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
but- what about the high pitched sound(s) you hear 'tween the ears late at night when all is silent without?
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
That's just the wind, whistling through the large gap between my ears that exists when I'm too tired to fill it with words.

Or something. :bucktooth:
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MidnightsMusic Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
*sarcasticly* Oh darn, i can't read yaoi anymore because I'm a minor.

>> I agree with basically everything you said anyway though, Sal. I shouldn't be poking my nose into that stuff (I go for the romance novels *cough*). But it's not like i'm reading it just to get that kinda stuff...

*shrugs* In a way, I'm glad that DA put up that mature content lock if you're underage. Less temptation. It's not something minors shoud be looking at anyway..

My thing is, though, this: Sex stories online (dA) are bad, but are the ones in novels bad too?

I have my own views, I just wanted to know what you thought about this..
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
My opinion on it is the same as anything else: write what you like, go for it, it's all good.

As long as it is 'literature' and not gratuitous, graphic porn, which is against policy here (and real-world borderline criminal, in the case of the depicting sex, willing or unwilling, with minors).
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MidnightsMusic Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007
Oh okay. I understand. Yeah, I'm not for the minor thing. So then that's the point of this whole rant then, hm? Stories written not for the literature, but for the over the top, gone-to-far sex/porn/lit?

...that's an insult to literature... *glares at people for that*
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
* the eroticised depiction of
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JiggyShoOT Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007   Writer
I think that if you are writing in an Erotic way I see no reason why not to simply submit the Fic 2 times. One is unsharped without any kind of Sexual action and points toward the Mature Version of the story, in that way your story will be read with or without sexuality.

I also think that it is wrong to detest certain things being in a text, a picute ist something else as far as I am concernd, but I have also wrotten a story with a rape reference because I simply felt that it belonged there, I don't go into detail, as the rape is stopped before it happens, however I would find it wrong to say that my Story would be sick and unmoral just because I decided that a real life theme belonged in it at a certain point. Sexuality is completly natural and with that it should have it's place in art and nobody here should question that place. If you find it wrong then report it in some way, but openly ranting is the wrong way to be done with such a topic, as you surely know you have attracted much attention to such submissions now, the artists will more likely thank you then curse you. Good article, but it cannot reach that for which it is intended.
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salshep Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007
I don't believe I called fiction depicting rape scenes 'sick and 'unmoral'' at all.

*scrolls* Nope.

If you look at what I'm saying up there (especially the bits I put in bold so's people might pay attention to them), it's pretty clear that what I'm talking about is writing written solely as pornography(i.e. lit written for the sole intent of sexual stimulation) containing explicit material that's against policy.

I don't see what's wrong with 'detesting' eroticised child rape or explicit, violent sex, etc.

I disagree that bringing it to attention is a bad thing. Lots of people are unhappy with the amount of porn here. Admin included, I should hope. And community awareness of it is one way of dealing with it. Well, the way I know how to, at least.

And just to clarify another bit from the article that you have clearly missed: I'm not at all against sex in literature. :)
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JiggyShoOT Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2007   Writer
Although it mean seem that way, I didn't not mean to Question your Effort in a sense of Morality nor that I believe that pure Pornographic Texts belong here whatsoever (although I do believe that it is ok if it is marked as Mature, it is also a form of art afterall).

To detest certain forms of Sexual writing is something clearly wrong here, as that is all a thing of Sexuallity in the sense of what I like and what I don't like. I believe that Rape is bad no matter what and should not be used for arousal, but just because I think that doesn't mean that everybody else has to.

However what I like to say is that by taking the Bull by the Horns as you are here you are sadly drawing more attention to these things and so with surely making the Problem larger. How else you could handle this problem...I do not know, but as you protest the Problem whatsoever I protest your effort, noble as it may be, as you are drawing more interest to the Topic in the sense of people wanting it then people wanting to do something about it. I simply think that it may have helped if you would have been less direct in your text, so that people wouldn't know from the bat off what to look for.

You want to help, but the effort is most likely doing the opposite. However I think that something should be done against this, so by all means, tell me how I can help.
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